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Skirt Plugin Tutorial by RandomDraggon Skirt Plugin Tutorial by RandomDraggon
because the skirt plugin is godly and i hate 3DCG physics with a passion but sometimes they have nice skirts and well this fixes everything~

Questions? please ask!

DL the Skirt Plugin! [link]

How to install.
Get your pmde
Only works with the PMX version.

Go to your pmde folder>plugin>User
open the folder you downloaded and paste the files from it into your folder.

Open pmde go to
(E)>(P)>User>曲面自動設定プラグイン(PMX対応)
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vocaloidsfan Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
eventho I followed the steps correctly , it seems like the skirt plugin doesn't show up for me ;u;
can you pls upload a dl link of your pmxeditor that contains skirt plugin ? ;v;
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RandomDraggon Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
You have to download and install the skirt plug in on it's own. It doesn't come with PMX editor. I don't remember where I got mine or how to fix it if it has installation problems though, seeing as mine didn't have any issues. 
Sorry. 
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vocaloidsfan Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
well I downloaded it , put it in the right folder and it just doesn't work . Oh well , thank you anyway ! c:
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bekboo83 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2015  Student Artist
if you did this on multiple parts on the model(s),  and added them to mmd to make an awesome vid, would it make mmd seriously lag? or would it be ok?
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RandomDraggon Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
It all depends on how good your video card is on your computer. I've done what you're saying on mine and it's run perfectly fine. If you want another example of a model, there are some by montecore where they've used skirt-like physics on different places of the same model, like the sleeves and jacket, and it's fine. 
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Trouble-san Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It didn't work right. The physics are smoother, but they also go through the legs even with the proper groups unchecked. Yes, I do have physics in the legs and everything. ><;
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curliepatootie Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2014
will the skirt plugin work on pmx 02.22?
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MMDAnimatio357 Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Oh . Sometimes when I use skirt plugin, the leg still pass though the skirt No matter what I do.
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RandomDraggon Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
That can be caused by a multitude of things.

A. Do the legs have a different set of bone physics? They need to have a separate set of physics if they don't. Try looking at other models to see what I mean if you're confused. 

B. Are the skirt and leg physics set to notice each other? Small PMD/X Physics Lesson by RandomDraggon

C. The skirt's physics may go around the leg's physics because they aren't held together properly. This is a iffy kind of thing to deal with and just requires some experimentation. I would say try looking at other skirts joints to see what their settings are and try to use those to find something you like. 
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MMDAnimatio357 Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Probably C. Aren't held together properly?
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RandomDraggon Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Well check um all to be safe.

But yeah the skirt plugin makes these little middle joints, that connect the bone strings' physics and stuff. So they don't separate too far or whatever and cause the leg to go through. To figure them out I would just suggest experimenting with the joint's numeral inputs, or looking at other model's skirts that have those middle joints to see what they do with theirs to make it work. 
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Tuany-Neko-Daisuki Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2014
the Plugin isn't working in both PMDe and PMXe ;-;
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:iconrandomdraggon:
RandomDraggon Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm not sure what to do about that. I'm sorry. 
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Tuany-Neko-Daisuki Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2014
it's ok.
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TheMightyKumo Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2014
Is anyone able to get this skirt plugin to work for pmxeditor?
I get some sort of slimDX error when I run pmxeditor, it works fine in pmdeditor.
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StekinoMai Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
oi60.tinypic.com/qyy3jt.jpg

I hope this helps, cause I used to have the same problem as you do..
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RandomDraggon Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
i have it working in my pmx editor. Idk whats wrong with yours ;;A;;
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Hebigami-Okami-77 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2014  Student General Artist
You're extremely awesome for providing this tutorial! Thank you so much! :love:
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RandomDraggon Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
hehe thanks~
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Hebigami-Okami-77 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2014  Student General Artist
You're so welcome. =^^=
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MooJoongSoo Featured By Owner Edited Aug 17, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ammmm RanDragg, i have this problem... can u help me?
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NadeshikoLove1 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
And this also rigg the skirt or I have to do it manual? :0
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RandomDraggon Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
it rigs the skirt for ya! You just gotta make sure it's all rigged to the lower body bone first otherwise it'll mess up
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NadeshikoLove1 Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Sorry for bother you, but this plugin may also work in other things, for example in a long hair?  or just in skirts?
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:iconrandomdraggon:
RandomDraggon Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
hm..... well I've used it for jackets, it's worked pretty well. I've used it to rig shirts that need to act like skirts. You can probably use it on sleeves too. 

I'm not entirely sure how it would work on hair but I mean we'll never know until we try it right? But no matter what, this shit's always in a circle shape, you're gonna have to delete any bone sets it gives you that aren't attached to the hair. 
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NadeshikoLove1 Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Ohh, I see, this thing it's so cool, will make the things easyer
Thank you so much agian, I'll try by myself then:3
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NadeshikoLove1 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
oh, how useful! thank you so much! Emoji02 
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AlexCookiie Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014
What pmxeditor version to use?
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:iconiseddie:
iseddie Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014  Student Digital Artist
the skirt plugin isn't registering
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Green-Fighter Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
bvfdgdsgsdgdgfdsvgds thank you :iconpapcryplz:
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MrToastyy Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014
the physics are separating?  and the leg goes between them :((
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RandomDraggon Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Make sure the skirt and legs rigid bodies are two different colors, and make sure they are not ignoring each other (if the opposite color's box is checked it is being ignored) Otherwise I don't really  know how to help you, I don't have the model. 
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IgnisDraconi Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
This keeps happening to me and I don't have the answer yet... It's a weird issue where the physics don't collide each other, no matter what your configurations are... I always ended making manual physics but I'm still making some testings, If I figure out what is happening, I tell you.
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:iconmrtoastyy:
MrToastyy Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014
with or without physics
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MrToastyy Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014
want me to send u it
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MrToastyy Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014
kms legs are gong through skirt and the higher or lower the number the more like less stiff it is?
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TheMikuDancer Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014
Soo I used this tutorial and the skirt ended up falling through the floor. I tried again by weighti the entire skirt first but it still fell. Pwease help me :< 
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RandomDraggon Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
did you make sure the joints and bones connect to the lower body physic and bone??? 
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:iconthemikudancer:
TheMikuDancer Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2014
Yes it's fine if I don't put in the numbers (the 500s and stuff) it doesn't fall through, but it gets stiff
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Devificents Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Um... Is this normal?
fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/201…

S-sorry for bothering you, I don't know what to do. >.<;
Has anyone had this problem before?
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RandomDraggon Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm not entirely sure why it's doing that....try making sure you have all the updated versions of stuff and try again I suppose. I'm not sure what's wrong. 
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Devificents Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Can you make a .zip of the pmd/pmx with the skirt plugin you have, please? I tried everything and it's like that. o.o sometimes I get the " Error " messages and it crashes on me. It's annoying- also sorry for bothering you. x.x
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RandomDraggon Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
;;A;; no, i'm sorry I have an old version so...it wouldn't work with yours or anything...
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:icondevificents:
Devificents Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
x.x ty for trying though, and commenting back. O_o if you ever find out what is going on... please tell me A.S.A.P.
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LazerRay Featured By Owner May 13, 2014
Did a quick test on the plugin, it works for the english version of PMD Editor 139, but it doesn't work for PMX Editor version 219.

Luckily PMD Editor 139 can still use PMX files.
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LazerRay Featured By Owner May 14, 2014
Anyone know some good tips on using this plugin, I'm having trouble with a converted 3DCG skirt.

It ends up way too stiff after following the tutorial, and the legs still clip through the skirt.
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neko-0W0-nya Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2014
Did you, by any chance, figure what the problem was? -has the same problem-
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LazerRay Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2014
I figured out the stiffness issue by looking at the spring settings on another model and set them up the same way.
(just find a model that was made with the plug-in with similar rigging to what you plan for the skirt and look at the joint settings)

As for the leg issue, its still a bit troublesome, but it was reduced quite a bit from the spring settings.
Good thing the latest version of MMD has improved physics controls, to fix some problem areas.
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neko-0W0-nya Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2014
Spring setting? -I really have no clue about how things are called-
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LazerRay Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2014
There is a nice comparison guide for the skirt plug-in and PMD editor that shows the setting places.

Click this link for the comparison guide Link (note: SP stands for the spring settings)
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